
SEX & HEALTH: DATING & RELATIONSHIPS
Talking openly about the topic is hard because of the tone I often hear, as in the terms Asian Fetish or Yellow Fever. Fetish means you substitute an object for a person. Fever implies you are crazy. If you've been approached by many white guys, you may feel they see you as an object or they are crazy. That may be true of some, I don't know, but not of all.
On the other hand, people seem to love talking about the subject. Conversations can go on for hours. Everyone has an opinion. American culture stifles talk about race, so when people find others with whom they can speak openly, months of withheld observations can come out. Unfortunately, even friends can be quick to judge and polarize the conversation, often ending it, with one misstatement.
I can't recall hearing a positive reaction to a white guy preferring Asian women. People often say negative or neutral things, but rarely positive. I also don't hear people talk about Asian women who are into white guys. I've met plenty, but I don't hear them described as having a fetish or a fever. It feels like Russ Meyers and Hugh Hefner get more understanding.
It's important to remember the diversity of groups. There are a lot more people and cultures of both European and Asian descent than I can keep track of. I don't know if my details are important, but maybe they'll help you. I am a tall, fit, white guy in my mid-thirties. I am from the East coast, went to Ivy League schools for college and an MBA, and now live in New York City. I have had one deeply loving, multi-year relationship with a Korean woman (let's call her Esther) and one with a white woman. Of my other romantic relationships, at least three quarters have been with Asians, but I have dated women of many ethnicities.
I am more attracted to Asian women than any other women. I don't know why. It's been that way since I was first attracted to women, although I didn't realize it for a long time. I tend to be attracted to Koreans and some Japanese more than others, but I've dated Chinese, Filipino, Indonesian, and Thai.
I got over the feeling of racism when I realized the preference wasn't a judgment. It was just whom I was attracted to. My preference feels no more racist than being interested in women feels sexist.
One of my earliest memories of feeling attraction to a girl was in high school. I was on the bus. An Asian girl from the high school across the street got on. She wasn't the first Asian girl I had seen, but it felt like the whole rest of the world disappeared, like I witnessed beauty for the first time. I had never been so attracted to someone before. I don't think I ever saw her again. I remember having a vague sense her being Asian had something to do with my attraction, but I dismissed that sense at the time, feeling it was racist.
For many years, I noticed that preference for Asians, but kept dismissing it. I fell in love with a white girl, who was for a few years everything to me. She is still a great friend. Later, in college, people who noticed my preference joked about it, generally making me feel embarrassed and ashamed. Eventually I came to accept it. I got over the feeling of racism when I realized the preference wasn't a judgment. It was just whom I was attracted to. My preference feels no more racist than being interested in women feels sexist.
I never felt my preference was a choice. People act like I have a choice in the matter. I have no sense that I do. As best I can tell I was born this way. People have a hard time accepting that I did not choose this preference. I didn't choose to be heterosexual either, but I am, and no one asks why I choose women over men or calls me sexist. The internal feeling is the same. The attraction is purely physical, for better or worse. Asian, especially Korean, features attract me - “ both nothing specific and everything together. I wish I could say more because people always ask. Asian features - “ straight black hair, eyes, etc. - “ tend to sound attractive, but no one feature is most important. Asian features don't override everything else. Plenty of Asian women don't attract me. I also don't extrapolate from physical features to personality.
For people who accept that my attraction is just physical and otherwise like that of other guys, all the rest of my behavior follows. Because it feels good to open up with someone, to be myself, I try to get to know women to whom I am attracted. I think that's true of everyone. Do the people you find yourself attracted to have certain characteristics? I hear for many (not all!) women attraction can come from height, profession, level of success, or power. Do you like to be with people to whom you can open up and be yourself? Do you try to spend time with them? If so, it may be easier to understand me. For me, the people I happen to find myself attracted to are Asian women. I am not attracted to them because they or their parents or families are from the continent of Asia or because of any cultural heritage. I don't find any of the many Asian cultures or histories more or less rich than those of any other cultures.
I want to be with them because I am attracted to them. I think this desire to find someone you can feel comfortable with is universal and a powerful motivator. I've never met anyone who didn't like being with someone they felt comfortable with, or who liked being with someone who made them feel uncomfortable and awkward.
In the long run, a relationship depends on how the two people relate regardless of the initial attraction. In this regard, I relate to the same things as anyone: personality, a sense of humor, common interests, common backgrounds, and so on. Communication and understanding is important, so I tend to be attracted to Asian-Americans. I don't favor one culture over another, I just happen to have been born in the U.S. and learned its language and culture.
Preconceptions
Below are some preconceptions I hear a lot. They don't apply to me, but people expect them to. Maybe they apply to others, I don't know. They would sound ridiculous to me if I didn't hear them so much. I believe they come from a lack of understanding. One of the reasons I am writing this article is to increase the level of understanding.Preconceived notion #1
I am attracted to all Asian women, or if a woman is Asian I will be attracted to her. Just because a woman is Asian does not mean I will like her or find her attractive. Do people believe anyone has one and only one measure of attractiveness? Why would they think I was different? Of course things like personality, sense of humor, common interests, etc. are the same to me as you. After the initial attraction fades, those elements determine the relationship. Can you imagine someone thinking that little about you? How would you feel?Preconceived notion #2
Asian women are submissive and that's what attracts me. Do people really believe Asians are more or less submissive than others? I can imagine culturally defined roles from a different time, but that time isn't a part of my life. Those roles don't motivate me. The individual matters to me. I don't keep track of submissiveness of different ethnic groups, but as far as I can tell, no group is more or less submissive than any other. The women I've dated have tended to be assertive. Esther was extraordinarily assertive.Preconceived notion #3
My relationship with Esther made me this way. This idea reverses cause and effect. I was crazy about Esther because I was attracted to Koreans, not the other way around. Even friends I've known for decades say this notion. They think I'm always trying to recapture that relationship. Imagine someone thinking this about you. It's dehumanizing. How would you like it if every time you met a guy, people thought it had to do with a guy you knew over a decade ago? I loved her and those memories will always be a part of me, but that was then and this is now.Preconceived notion #4
I'm attracted to Asian women because I can't get white women. This one is hard for me to understand. Here's what a Filipino woman told me: in cultures Europeans colonized, the colonized people learned to see whites as superior. They felt that white guys in search of a woman would start at the top, with white women, and then work their way down. If they couldn't get white women, they'd have to settle for non-white women. This thinking makes no sense to me. I certainly don't feel like I'm settling.I feel bad when people assume these things about me. I try to understand people and why they would think these things. After writing most of this article I looked up Yellow Fever on Wikipedia, which led to an article on "Stereotypes of East and Southeast Asians," which listed a number of stereotypes of Asian women. A lot of articles on the web talk about how white men attracted to Asian women are motivated by stereotypes, some rooted in colonialism. I don't know about other guys, but none of those stereotypes resonated with me. They sound awful to me too, and I don't subscribe to them.
I don't want to be or act Asian. I don't have Asian tattoos. I don't try to learn more or less about Asian cultures or languages, than any other. I learned some in passing, but I know a lot more French. I like what I've learned about Buddhism and Taoism, but the interest is based on the ideas alone. I like western philosophy and science too. I don't try to impress anyone with my knowledge of Asian cultures.
I am happy with who I am. While it might be more convenient not to date across racial or ethnic boundaries, I don't feel compelled to change because of social pressure. I think everyone should know who they are, should be comfortable with themselves, and should not feel compelled to be who others or the media tell them to.
I know some women who are attracted to men with certain characteristics. Sometimes they are physical characteristics and sometimes they aren't. For example, some women (not all!) are attracted to men who are tall, or successful, or musicians, or in positions of power, or athletes, or whatever.
Meeting and getting to know the stories of gay male friends' paths to acceptance helped me. They told me they didn't expect to prefer men when they matured. When they did, at first they didn't want to. Later they realized that is was who they were and they were born. Now they enjoy who they are. The stories of their journeys resonated with me. Like them, I didn't choose my preference. When I find a woman with whom I am comfortable, it feels great. One thing I wish I had: For whatever challenges society gives gays, at least in New York there are communities that support them.
I could tell stories about how people say or do things that hurt. I don't mind if people judge me for choices I make or actions based on those choices, but judging me based on who I am doesn't help anyone. As I've matured, I've come to view their judgments as signs of just not knowing, because people often condemn what they don't know.
The word "creepy" gets me. I've never heard it about myself, but I hear it about white guys interested in Asian women. I can't imagine anyone liking to be called creepy. I ask my Asian women friends why they would call a white guy who is attracted to Asian women creepy. Many think he is interested in just one feature about them, which dehumanizes the rest of them. I understand that perspective, especially if they also believe the preconceived notions above, but it is inaccurate with me. I wish I knew how to convey to someone new that I really do see her as a complete person.
I know some women who are attracted to men with certain characteristics. Sometimes they are physical characteristics and sometimes they aren't. For example, some women (not all!) are attracted to men who are tall, or successful, or musicians, or in positions of power, or athletes, or whatever. Think of such an attraction you or a confidante has. I would doubt you or she forgets about everything else, like personality or whatever. Have people ever over-interpreted your attraction? Do you or she ever feel compelled to conceal it because of how others might react? If so, the connection may increase your understanding of me. I feel like my preference becomes in other people's eyes the only thing about me. This happens with white guys I'm casual but not close friends with, like classmates. Their behavior changes when they learn about the preference. I feel like they judge me by something that is really just a part of who I am, like it's a choice, which it isn't. Guys constantly rib me about it, asking if or assuming every Asian woman within view is attractive to me. While it feels great to have a relationship with a Korean woman, I don't want to ask out every single one. I really do like having friendships with ones I can connect with. But then every time I talk to an Asian woman, some people act like I'm in the throes of some uncontrollable fetish.
I am also afraid of the response from Asian women I try to meet. If I tell her about my preference too early, our communication may not be nuanced enough for the details. Tell her too late and she may think I was hiding something. Maybe this is just the usual fear of rejection anyone gets when trying to meet someone new.
People have a hard time handling race. I have two friends, one black one white, in a long term relationship. He says it well: "We have a million things in common, but when people see us, all they see is a black and white couple. They are missing the real beauty of our relationship."
My Questions to Asiance Readers
Two big questions. Is it hard to believe I can see a woman as an individual and find her attractive for being Asian? Is it hard to believe my preference is something I was born with?I get asked how many of my girlfriends have been Asian. Do you ask Asian guys the same question? What's the difference if the guy dating Asians is himself white, Asian, or whatever? Would it be better if I were attracted only to white women or only blond women? What's the difference? Because I'm white?
Say I really am interested in a woman because of what I've gotten to know about her, that I think she's a good person I want to get to know better. What should I say? How should I approach her? Is it fair to believe we could be happy together?
Is there a name for Asian women who like white guys? I feel like I should know, but I don't. Do Asian women who date mostly white guys take flak for it??
For more information and to contact author Jay Spark, please go to his MyAsiance page at my.asiancemagazine.com/jayspark




















White guy with an Asian - So What
I'm a white guy who's been dating an asian girl for 2 years now. I'm 22 and 5' 10". She is 5' 7". I've dated white and spanish girls in the past and can really say race doesn't make a difference. My girlfriend told me about this "asian fetish" crap she's heard in class and was reading in a cosmo magazine. Personally I think its all made up by white girls jealous us white guys can date outside our race. It really shouldn't stir people's emotions as much if they weren't jealous. Also, all this talk about white guys "settling" for non-whites is the same jealous people talking. The race hasn't mattered for me, its been the personality and of course beauty that has mattered. Seriously people shouldn't look up to America as much as they do for beauty. Everyone is getting fat in this country. 65% are obese or overweight. My gf and myself are the only power couple we've seen that works out and has abs! Wake up guys.
My mom is Asian and my dad
My mom is Asian and my dad is white. I believe that White people think they know everything when they dont. I laugh when Asian women say white guys are faithful. White guys with asian fetishes are the least faithful of all men. you are fools for thinking they are faithful. My dad had many affairs in the past. My dad would leave us for months because of his affairs. My mom is a crazy self-hating bitch. My sister hates white men so shes knows the truth about white men. White men do not treat women better they basically lie to them and cheat on them and pretend everything is fine. Fuck white people fuck asian people. I personally dont find White girls or Asian girls attractive. I like Latin girls best. with white girls i do like italian and spanish girls and sometimes eastern european. For Asian women they are overrated for the beauty and are the most guilble and most selfish of all the ladies.
Asian girls overrated
asian girls are not really that attractive. I dont like white girls much either they think they are princess and so do Asian girls. I like Latin women they are way more exotic than boring and plain Asian girls.
Asian woman with white man
I am an asian woman who was born and raised in asian culture, but i am so crazy of white culture. (If i could be born to be white, I would choose to be one of them) I only want to date and marry white man, and I only like white people. I have dated some asian men before and I totally regret it. Mainly because I think white culture are simple. White men tend to be more responsible, gentlemen, romantic, manly and so on.... Sure, there are white men who are jerks and asshole ,but look at asian men again. Many of them are also the same. Many mrried asian men have mistresses, they go to "massage plus plus" and many other crazy places where you can get laid by prostitutes. Many asian girls are desperate to be rich that they have to sell themselves or to be business men's mistresses. I seldom hear white women are desperate to have money just to buy them clothes and make up or to be pretty. I only hear this among asian women. It would take me hundred of pages to describe how good white people are and how not good (specially asian men) asian are. I know alot of my asian girlfriends who prefer white men than asian men because of the same reasons with me. I am trully sorry if you feel offended, but it's just my opinion and how I look about things. Asian people are too much with culture and weird beliefs. I am myself born and raised in asian culture find how complicated it is to be asian. WHite people are just simple and don't believe weird things. The most important is : compared to asian women, White women are less desperate to be rich and pretty as themselves are already naturally beautiful. and oh, white women without makeup are gorgeous, while asian women have to put tons of makeup to be pretty..... Moreover, asian women tend to be too skinny, flat chest and ass. No curve at all, not sexy ! White women have curves, breasts and ass, tall, long legged, nice firmed skin. (yea... yea..I know there are some who are overweight, fat , and have sagging breast, so are asians !!) Ahhh, how i wish to be one of them...
everything and everyone is the same
lol im not offended say the least cause everything and everyone around me is the same. im Asian male, born and raised in Australia and have been through both Asian and WHite culture. I have friends of both backgrounds and dont mind either culture. But from what ive been through and seen, its all the same bs. Everyone is a cheating, lying faggot. You can embrace the white culture but shouldn't be so envious. Don't worship them. They are people. Just like me and you.
After reading this topic, I
After reading this topic, I want to tell a little bit of how i initially feel about white people. I'm mostly admired them, they all look beautiful in the eyes and being raised as a South Vietnamese in Australia, I am taught to portrait White people as peace loving heroes. As a guy I've always dreamed of being with a White girl and be assimilated into the Western society and to contribute to that beautiful world they have created. As a Vietnamese boy being raised in Melbourne I don't have much things to do but to dream on everyday and all days and thought one of those dream would come true one day. But as i grow up, I've realized that most White people are extremely racist people who once tormented my aunties who came to Australia during the fall of Vietnam. White people have lied so much to me in school as they always trying to prevent Asian from learning. I've witnessed our women being taken away from us in front of us while we are being the racial target at the same time. I've witnessed so many rape stories towards White girls and couldn't tackle the reason why White girls still prefer those men that has always been raping them. It is true that we're short ugly men. I'm 174 and I've rarely seen any White man who is shorter than me and at least 60% of them are more beautiful and masculine than me. But i do not feel inferior to White people because of any of these features they have but it came from my deep respects that my parents have embedded within me during my childhoods. I know it's rough life over here, I'm already 24 and pursuing my dream of helping my poor people in Vietnam and Uniting us East Asian people. As heart broken as I am being rejected within the Western societies I feel abundant and independent with nothing but a dream left to fulfill. I don't know much about love as I've never had a girl friend before but I feel stronger when I'm more isolated. I feel happy for those Asian women who found their dream partner that are tall Western men. But you see, I've borrowed 250 000aud 2 years ago to purchase a retail business(risky but I'm willing to throw my life away to experiences new things). It turned out very profitable and now I'm planning to establish a company in Vietnam to further generate more income and soon to open an orphanage to help out the young yet unfortunate children of Vietnam. But one day, i will raise those kids into brain washed people who hate this world the same way as I do.
Thank you
Hi Mr. Spark, Thank you so much for writing this article. Even though you were writing for male audience. I found it quite something of a learning experience and new insights that overthrew the old ones. Previously in life, I have dated an Italian American guy for a year. One thing that I loved about this relationship was how astounding this relationship changed me as a person, not because of my Asian ethnicity or my American-influenced Asian upbringing. Growing up, I haven't had any clue about my own ethnicity or other ethnicities because I was the only asian girl growing up in a fully White environment and white elementary school. Or I didn't exactly have any physical attraction to guys until much, much later. Before I realized it, I liked a white guy. Then, it was, I realized something else, which left me confused: A white guy only dates a white girl. I felt somewhat lost, but it didn't get me too deeply as I was enjoying my life. Then came this guy who talked to me all of a suddenly about how he loves pokemon. He made me smile so much because all my life, my whole life, I was always hearing white people saying that pokemon was stupid and they hated it and I nodded and agreed with them while secretly I was conflicted because I love pokemon so much that I have a pikachu doll to sleep with every night. I can't imagine dating an Asian guy. Long story short, my father passed away when i was very young, just about entering elementary school. So, I never had that Asian male role to grow up with. And my mother was quite liberal that she tried to raise me as an American, by celebrating birthday, valentine, halloween, july 4th, more than Asian, New Moon or the animal years. I must admit, growing up I thought the whole time I was white. Then eventually many years later around high school, I realized that I was not white and had grown inwardly since because I had this emptiness that crawled at me. It took me a long time to relearn everything about myself and arrive to that point where I am happy with who I am, with what I am. I am Asian and I am simply proud. I am half-Taiwanese and half-Japanese. I have dated both. I really appreciate the experiences and all the romantic times with them, but I've struggled in my relationships with them because I don't entirely embrace the Asian women's belief. One good example about my struggle with asian culture and belief, a friend of mine, who is Asian and really beautiful and strong, has a degree from Princeton Uni. She said, "This [asian guy] has an MBA from UC berkeley. The moment he heard me say Princeton, he was ready to leave me on the spot." Asian belief: men don't want to date a woman who is, in any way, better than them. Successful women is admirable, but men want women to admire them than the other way around. So that's why I was just struggling in my relationships with Asian guys. Then came this Italian American guy who swept me off my feet. I wouldn't say it's because of him I changed. It's more that he's my first door to my rightful place. I couldn't imagine a White guy dating an Asian girl until I met him. He helped me find my place and where I stand in all honesty and where I can be true to myself. I have always liked white, but I need someone to appreciate my mixed Asian culture, family, blood, and where I come from. OK, that's quite a long comment here. Again, thank you for the article. It was a pleasant read. Warm Regards, Kimberly
its funny how these asian
its funny how these asian women want to get with a white man cuz they think they'll get "cute hapa babies." then when they finally do have one it turns out to look like rob schneider, who by the way is hapa.
I am Chinese myself and find
I am Chinese myself and find it offensive to see a white guy and an Asian woman together. I feel like the bitch is a sell-out who leaches off the white dude for status reasons. Most Asian women are boring and conformists. I truly look down on people who date outside their race.
Forget Asian bitches. White
Forget Asian bitches. White girls are better looking anyways.
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